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>>> IT WAS JUST SO SUDDEN AND UNAWARE AND CAME FROM NOWHERE.
UNAWARE AND CAME FROM NOWHERE. I FELT THESE HANDS ON MY
I FELT THESE HANDS ON MY SHOULDERS AND I'M THINKING,
SHOULDERS AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, THAT'S ODD, THE VICE
OKAY, THAT'S ODD, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS TOUCHING ME.
IS TOUCHING ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING I GUESS
BUT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING I GUESS TOO OUT OF THE ORDINARY, BUT
TOO OUT OF THE ORDINARY, BUT THEN I FELT HIM GET CLOSER.
THEN I FELT HIM GET CLOSER. HE LEANED IN AND WAS LIKE RIGHT
HE LEANED IN AND WAS LIKE RIGHT BEHIND ME ON MY BODY.
BEHIND ME ON MY BODY. AND HE LEANS DOWN, SMELLS MY
AND HE LEANS DOWN, SMELLS MY HAIR AND THEN PLANTS THIS BIG,
HAIR AND THEN PLANTS THIS BIG, LONG KISS ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
LONG KISS ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AND IT JUST HAPPENED SO
AND IT JUST HAPPENED SO SUDDENLY, IEALLY DIDN'T EVEN
SUDDENLY, IEALLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RESPOND.
KNOW HOW TO RESPOND. IN MY BRAIN I JUST KEPT THINKING
IN MY BRAIN I JUST KEPT THINKING THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS SMELLING ME, THE VICE
STATES IS SMELLING ME, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS TOUCHING ME, HE'S KISSING ME
IS TOUCHING ME, HE'S KISSING ME AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
DO. I KIND OF FELT FROZEN.
I KIND OF FELT FROZEN. >> DO YOU THINK THE INTENTIONS
>> DO YOU THINK THE INTENTIONS OF THE VICE PRESIDENT AT THE
OF THE VICE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME COUNT FOR ANYTHING, IF HE
TIME COUNT FOR ANYTHING, IF HE DID NOT HAVE MALICIOUS OR
DID NOT HAVE MALICIOUS OR ILL-CONSIDERED INTENTIONS?
ILL-CONSIDERED INTENTIONS? THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT HE'S
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING IN HIS STATEMENT, OR DO
SAYING IN HIS STATEMENT, OR DO YOU THINK THAT DOESN'T MATTER?
YOU THINK THAT DOESN'T MATTER? >> THAT DOESN'T MATTER.
>> THAT DOESN'T MATTER. THE INTENTION -- AND FOR THE
THE INTENTION -- AND FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT
RECORD, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A BAD INTENTION.
WAS A BAD INTENTION. I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SUGGESTING
I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SUGGESTING THAT I FELT SEXUAL ASSAULTED OR
THAT I FELT SEXUAL ASSAULTED OR SEXUALLY HARASSED.
SEXUALLY HARASSED. I FELT INVADED.
I FELT INVADED. I FELT THAT THERE WAS A
I FELT THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF MY PERSONAL SPACE.
VIOLATION OF MY PERSONAL SPACE. >> VIOLATED.
>> VIOLATED. ARE WE'RE BACK?
ARE WE'RE BACK? THAT WAS LUCY FLORES.
THAT WAS LUCY FLORES. ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR LETTING ME
ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW.
KNOW. SO SHE FELT VIOLATED IS THE WORD
SO SHE FELT VIOLATED IS THE WORD SHE USES.
SHE USES. THAT WAS LUCY FLORES, THE 2014
THAT WAS LUCY FLORES, THE 2014 DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF NEVADA,
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF NEVADA, DETAILING HER ALLEGATION ABOUT
DETAILING HER ALLEGATION ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S CONDUCT AND
JOE BIDEN'S CONDUCT AND DESCRIBING WHAT HE SAYS HAPPEN
DESCRIBING WHAT HE SAYS HAPPEN AT A CAN ENT HE RESPONDED
AT A CAN ENT HE RESPONDED SAYING, QUOTE, IN MY MANY YEARS
SAYING, QUOTE, IN MY MANY YEARS NN THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND IN
NN THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND IN PUBLIC LIFE HAVE I OFFERED
PUBLIC LIFE HAVE I OFFERED COUNTLESS HANDSHAKES, HUGS,
COUNTLESS HANDSHAKES, HUGS, EXPRESSIONS OF AFFECTION,
EXPRESSIONS OF AFFECTION, SUPPORT AND COMFORT AND NOT ONCE
SUPPORT AND COMFORT AND NOT ONCE NEVER DIBELIEVE I ACTED
NEVER DIBELIEVE I ACTED INAPPROPRIATELY.
INAPPROPRIATELY. IF IT IS SUGGESTED I DID, I WILL
IF IT IS SUGGESTED I DID, I WILL LESS THE SAME WAY AND I MAY BE
LESS THE SAME WAY AND I MAY BE BE SURPRISED WITH WHAT I HEARD
BE SURPRISED WITH WHAT I HEARD AND WE'RE AT A TIME WHERE WOMEN
AND WE'RE AT A TIME WHERE WOMEN AND MEN AND MSNBC HAS REVIEWED
AND MEN AND MSNBC HAS REVIEWED CORRESPONDENCE THAT SHE
CORRESPONDENCE THAT SHE DISCUSSED THE INCIDENT AND
DISCUSSED THE INCIDENT AND HAPPENED AROUND SHE WHEN DESCEND
HAPPENED AROUND SHE WHEN DESCEND UPON THIS MOMENT, METOO,
UPON THIS MOMENT, METOO, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT,
WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT, THINGS ARE CHANGING.
THINGS ARE CHANGING. THE AND THE WAY THANKSGIVING
THE AND THE WAY THANKSGIVING CHANGE THEIR APPROACH, PERHAPS
CHANGE THEIR APPROACH, PERHAPS EVEN CHANGE THEIR ENTIRE
EVEN CHANGE THEIR ENTIRE BEHAVIOR, WHICH IS NOT A BAD
BEHAVIOR, WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING.
THING. WE'RE EVOLVING AS A SOCIETY.
WE'RE EVOLVING AS A SOCIETY. BUT I GUESS WHAT CONCERNS ME
BUT I GUESS WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS IS THE POLITICAL
ABOUT THIS IS THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT OF
NATURE OF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS BEHAVIOR, OF THIS VIOLATION
THIS BEHAVIOR, OF THIS VIOLATION SO TO SPEAK.
SO TO SPEAK. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO HER
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO HER STORY?
STORY? >> SO WE HAVE TO TAKE SERIOUSLY
>> SO WE HAVE TO TAKE SERIOUSLY ANY CLAIM, I THINK, ABOUT THE
ANY CLAIM, I THINK, ABOUT THE INVASION OF PERSONAL SPACE.
INVASION OF PERSONAL SPACE. >> FOR SURE.
>> FOR SURE. ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. >> WE SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE
>> WE SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE DEBATE BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND
DEBATE BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND HILLARY CLINTON WHEN HE HOVERED
HILLARY CLINTON WHEN HE HOVERED BEHIND HER AND MANY PEOPLE
BEHIND HER AND MANY PEOPLE THAT'S JUST A POURED VIOLATION
THAT'S JUST A POURED VIOLATION IS KIND OF STRONG BUT I WANT TO
IS KIND OF STRONG BUT I WANT TO TAKE SERIOUSLY OF THAT.
TAKE SERIOUSLY OF THAT. AND WE'RE IN A MOMENT OF A
AND WE'RE IN A MOMENT OF A CULTURAL SHIFT.
CULTURAL SHIFT. IT MEANS THE LINES ARE BLURRIED.
IT MEANS THE LINES ARE BLURRIED. WE HAVEN'T QUITE SETTLED ON THIS
WE HAVEN'T QUITE SETTLED ON THIS EVENING AND SO I THINK WHAT
EVENING AND SO I THINK WHAT JAMES CROW AGRICULTURE, UNDER
JAMES CROW AGRICULTURE, UNDER PEACEKEEPER AND PEOPLE WHO WERE
PEACEKEEPER AND PEOPLE WHO WERE RAISED AND REARED UNDER ONE SET
RAISED AND REARED UNDER ONE SET OF CONDITIONS HAVE TO NOW FIGURE
OF CONDITIONS HAVE TO NOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE UNDER A
OUT HOW TO LIVE UNDER A DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS.
DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS. SO WE'RE IN THIS WE'RE GOING TO
SO WE'RE IN THIS WE'RE GOING TO PAK FORECAST THERE'S THE
PAK FORECAST THERE'S THE OPPOSITION RESEARCHES THAT RAHAL
OPPOSITION RESEARCHES THAT RAHAL RAHAL.
RAHAL. BUT I WANT TO SAY, THIS TOO, I
BUT I WANT TO SAY, THIS TOO, I THINK THERE'S SOME LAZY THINKING
THINK THERE'S SOME LAZY THINKING THAT HAPPENS IN OUR SOCIETY THAT
THAT HAPPENS IN OUR SOCIETY THAT RELIES ON LABELS.
RELIES ON LABELS. INSTEAD OF US THINKING IN A
INSTEAD OF US THINKING IN A NUANCED, COMPLEX WAY, IT'S
NUANCED, COMPLEX WAY, IT'S EASIER TO CALL SOMEONE A
EASIER TO CALL SOMEONE A RAUSIST, A MISOGYNIST, IT'S
RAUSIST, A MISOGYNIST, IT'S EASIER TO THROW OUT HE'S AND
EASIER TO THROW OUT HE'S AND PART OF WHAT THIS TRANSMISSION
PART OF WHAT THIS TRANSMISSION WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL,
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, DELIBERATE AND NUANCED BECAUSE A
DELIBERATE AND NUANCED BECAUSE A LOT IS AT STAKE.
LOT IS AT STAKE. >> PRP NUMBER ONE, HE WAS VICE
>> PRP NUMBER ONE, HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS.
PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS. MOST PEOPLE JUST SAY, YES,
MOST PEOPLE JUST SAY, YES, MR. VICE PRESIDENT, THANK YOU,
MR. VICE PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT.
MR. VICE PRESIDENT. HE GOES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND
HE GOES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND PEOPLE ARE SO EXCITED TO MEET
PEOPLE ARE SO EXCITED TO MEET HIM.
HIM. I'M SURE IF SOMEONE CAME UP TO
I'M SURE IF SOMEONE CAME UP TO ME, BE HE DOESN'T GET THAT
ME, BE HE DOESN'T GET THAT REALTIME PUB BACK.
REALTIME PUB BACK. HE'S BEEN NEVER OVER THE YEARS
HE'S BEEN NEVER OVER THE YEARS TO BE VERY AFFECTIONATE,
TO BE VERY AFFECTIONATE, FLIRTATION
FLIRTATION FLIRTATION
FLIRTATION FLIRTATIONYOU'VE DONE SUCH A
FLIRTATIONYOU'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB THIS MORNING OF
GOOD JOB THIS MORNING OF STRIKING THAT NUANCE BETWEEN
STRIKING THAT NUANCE BETWEEN WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT IT
WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT IT LIKE TO REALLY CONNECT WITH
LIKE TO REALLY CONNECT WITH PEOPLE VERSUS A AS EDDIE MONDAY
PEOPLE VERSUS A AS EDDIE MONDAY WHERE THERE, ONE OF THE
WHERE THERE, ONE OF THE THANKSGIVING THAT WE LOVE SO
THANKSGIVING THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH
MUCH MUCHTHAT WHO, HE HAS A VERY
MUCHTHAT WHO, HE HAS A VERY UNIQUE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH
UNIQUE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. HE'S CHARISMATIC, HE'S
HE'S CHARISMATIC, HE'S EMPATHETIC.
EMPATHETIC. AND THAT IS A STRENGTH.
AND THAT IS A STRENGTH. SINCE THE STORY CAME OUT FROM
SINCE THE STORY CAME OUT FROM LUCY FLORESES,, HIS TEAM HAS DON
LUCY FLORESES,, HIS TEAM HAS DON GOOD JOB REINFORCING HIM AS
GOOD JOB REINFORCING HIM AS SOMEONE WHO HAS EMPOWERED WOMEN
SOMEONE WHO HAS EMPOWERED WOMEN AND FOCUSED ON MAKING THE
AND FOCUSED ON MAKING THE WOMEN'S VOICES WHO WORK FOR HIM
WOMEN'S VOICES WHO WORK FOR HIM HEARD AND EMPOWERING THEM AS A
HEARD AND EMPOWERING THEM AS A STAFF MEMBER.
STAFF MEMBER. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> THEY'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB
>> THEY'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF PLAYING THAT UP.
OF PLAYING THAT UP. BUT ALSO, AGAIN, WE ARE IN A
BUT ALSO, AGAIN, WE ARE IN A CULTURAL SHIFT.
CULTURAL SHIFT. SO MUCH I THINK HE'S PROBABLY
SO MUCH I THINK HE'S PROBABLY HIS TEAM IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
HIS TEAM IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THINGS ARE MOVING A LITTLE BIT.
THINGS ARE MOVING A LITTLE BIT. >> I THINK HE'S ACKNOWLEDGING
>> I THINK HE'S ACKNOWLEDGING IT.
IT. AND I'M SURE AND I BECAUSE HE
AND I'M SURE AND I BECAUSE HE KNOWS STEPHANIE CARTER VERY WELL
KNOWS STEPHANIE CARTER VERY WELL AND SHE WOULD MAKE IT VERY CLEAR
AND SHE WOULD MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WAS NOT A ME TOO AND SHE
THAT WAS NOT A ME TOO AND SHE FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.
FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. IN BUT TO ADRIAN'S POINT ABOUT
IN BUT TO ADRIAN'S POINT ABOUT HIS CHARISMA, ABOUT PB FLOATING,
HIS CHARISMA, ABOUT PB FLOATING, IF I CAN USE THE WORD, THE
IF I CAN USE THE WORD, THE MOTHERS ARE CONGRESSMAN AND
MOTHERS ARE CONGRESSMAN AND CONGRESSWOMAN AND THIS THIS IS
CONGRESSWOMAN AND THIS THIS IS VINTAGE JOE BIDEN.
VINTAGE JOE BIDEN. HE LOVES THAT CONNECTION WITH
HE LOVES THAT CONNECTION WITH PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. HE LOVES TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL
HE LOVES TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE TO SHOW HIS WARMTH P
COMFORTABLE TO SHOW HIS WARMTH P WARMTH, HE IS OPENNESS.
WARMTH, HE IS OPENNESS. AND IN THE AGE OF ME BILL
AND IN THE AGE OF ME BILL BELICHICK
BELICHICK BELICHICK.
BELICHICK. F
F F.
F. AND THOSE OF US WHO KNOW
AND THOSE OF US WHO KNOW STEPHANIE CARTER KNOW SHE'S A
STEPHANIE CARTER KNOW SHE'S A PROFESSIONAL, BRILLIANT --
PROFESSIONAL, BRILLIANT -- >> TOUGH.
>> TOUGH. >> STRONG-WILLED PERSON.
>> STRONG-WILLED PERSON. IF ANYONE WERE GOING TO CALL OUT
IF ANYONE WERE GOING TO CALL OUT INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR, SHE
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR, SHE WOULD BE PREPARED TO DO IT.
WOULD BE PREPARED TO DO IT. SHE WRITES ABOUT IN THAT PIECE
SHE WRITES ABOUT IN THAT PIECE ON THE DAY ASH CARTER WAS
ON THE DAY ASH CARTER WAS ANNOUNCED TO BE THE NEXT
ANNOUNCED TO BE THE NEXT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, SHE
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, SHE SLIPPED IN FRONT OF THE ICE
SLIPPED IN FRONT OF THE ICE BEFORE HAD THE AND HE PUT HIS
BEFORE HAD THE AND HE PUT HIS ARMS IN
ARMS IN ARMSIN AND.
ARMSIN AND. AND TO YOUR POINT HE'S BEING --
AND TO YOUR POINT HE'S BEING -- WHAT IS HAPPENING IS WE'RE
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS WE'RE DEFINING DOWN ME, TOO.
DEFINING DOWN ME, TOO. IF WATER IT DONE.
IF WATER IT DONE. >> JEREMY, STAY WITH US.
>> JEREMY, STAY WITH US. WORING IT OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY
WORING IT OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY THAT WATCHs LOP MURDERED A
THAT WATCHs LOP MURDERED A "WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST,
"WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST, CHOPPED HIM UP WITH A CHAIN SAW,
CHOPPED HIM UP WITH A CHAIN SAW, HAD THAT ORDERED, KILLED HIM.
HAD THAT ORDERED, KILLED HIM. .
. AND THEY AGGRESSIVELY REPORTED
AND THEY AGGRESSIVELY REPORTED ON THE STORY THAT THE SAUDI
ON THE STORY THAT THE SAUDI ARABIAN CROWN PRINCE DIDN'T LIKE
ARABIAN CROWN PRINCE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT A "WASHINGTON POST"
WHAT A "WASHINGTON POST" JOURNALIST WAS DOING, SO THEY
JOURNALIST WAS DOING, SO THEY KILLED HIM.
KILLED HIM. THEN THEY STARTED ATTACKING JEFF
THEN THEY STARTED ATTACKING JEFF BEZOS AND JEFF BEZOS' MOST
BEZOS AND JEFF BEZOS' MOST PERSONAL DETAILS WIND UP IN A
PERSONAL DETAILS WIND UP IN A "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" STORY.
"NATIONAL ENQUIRER" STORY. >> SO HE OWNS --
>> SO HE OWNS -- >> YES, BEZOS OWNS "THE
>> YES, BEZOS OWNS "THE WASHINGTON POST."
WASHINGTON POST." WE KNOW WHO OWNS THE NATIONAL
WE KNOW WHO OWNS THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER.
ENQUIRER. SO
SO SO.
SO. SO THE INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN
SO THE INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE AND THE RESULTS, PRETTY
DONE AND THE RESULTS, PRETTY SHOCKING.
SHOCKING. ACCORDING TO THIS INVESTIGATION,
ACCORDING TO THIS INVESTIGATION, IT SEEMS THAT THE SAUDIS
IT SEEMS THAT THE SAUDIS ACTUALLY HAD HACKED INTO JEFF
ACTUALLY HAD HACKED INTO JEFF BEZOS'S PHONE BECAUSE HE IS AN
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